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Trainer Leadership Program

Key to the success of NASSCO’s educational programs.

NASSCO’s Trainer Program plays a key role in the success of the educational programs we offer. In 2024, NASSCO developed a Trainer Leadership Program for all trainers that focuses on helping trainers improve their presentation skills and class management practices to make the student learning experience even more innovative and efficient.

Trainers are required to

  • Stay current on new policies, learning, and enrollment platforms
  • Attend quarterly meetings
  • Participate in trainer support opportunities

As NASSCO’s Training Program evolves and adapts to the demand in educational growth in the underground infrastructure industry, Training Director, Laurie Perkins, PE, and our Customer Care Team are ready and available to assist Trainers and Students committed to our many training programs.

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2025 Trainer Awards

John Jones

Trainer of the Year

Eric Sullivan

Trainer Achievement Award

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Leadership Program Participants

Bryan Ballard

As Managing Partner of Certified Sewer Inspection, LLC (CSI), Mr. Ballard is responsible for management and operations. Mr. Ballard has over 35 years of experience in all aspects of collection system evaluations. He maintains NASSCO-Certified Trainer status in PACP™, LACP™ & MACP™ and maintains certifications in the Inspector Training and Certification Programs for Manhole Rehabilitations and Cured-in-Place-Pipe. “It is a pleasure to be able to inspire students by assisting them in discovering and acquiring understanding of PACP™. Watching students gain confidence as they progress in class makes me smile.”

Tony Bischoff

Tony Bischoff, P.E., has managed hundreds of pipeline inspection projects across sanitary sewer, stormwater, water distribution, and natural gas infrastructure. He joined Hydromax USA in June 2006 as a partner and Chief Information Officer, serving through 2021. There, he founded and led the company’s Data Center, establishing the technical backbone for data collection, reporting, and support—specializing in CCTV, flow monitoring, smoke testing, manhole inspections, sewer cross-bore location, and natural gas leak surveys. His GPS and GIS expertise integrated these technologies into daily operations and deliverables.
A NASSCO-certified trainer since 2004, Tony has been teaching field and office professionals in PACP, LACP, and MACP for over two decades.
“Training brings me pure joy—it’s a great way to connect with talented people from every corner of our industry.”

Paul Booth

Paul was President of a video inspection company from 1995-2012, managing multiple CCTV, SSES, and manhole rehabilitation crews and projects in the Southeastern United States. He certified in PACP™ in 2003 and became a PACP™ Trainer in 2005. Paul has trained municipalities, engineering firms, contractors, and manufacturers in PACP™ Certification and SSES field training. “The beautiful thing about learning is nobody can take it away from you.” – B.B. King

Joanne Carroll

For three decades, Joanne Carroll has been fortunate to work in an industry dedicated to maintaining and repairing some of the most essential yet often overlooked luxuries—indoor plumbing, safe drinking water, and the simple convenience of a flush. She was drawn to the shared commitment to build and rehabilitate aging buried infrastructure while minimizing environmental, social, and economic impacts.  She has most enjoyed the teamwork and passion of those who strive to innovate, construct, and advance this industry. Becoming a NASSCO Certified Trainer for CIPP and Manhole Rehabilitation allowed Joanne to raise awareness and share knowledge, improving the success and sustainability of trenchless rehabilitation for the  water and wastewater infrastructure.

“I train the NASSCO ITCP courses because I believe that education and training are the foundation for building opportunity, furthering awareness of these beneficial technologies, and improving the quality of the installed products, resulting in sustainable solutions for the renewal of aging infrastructure.”

Brandon Conley

Brandon Conley has over 28 years of indsutry experience and more than 15 years training PACP/LACP/MACP. He spent several years specializing in multi sensor inspections including dam, levee, deep tunnel, bridge and large diameter sturctures. He has also provided training on camera/software operations, providing solutions to inspection challenges. “Being a part of this amazing Nassco Community has been the best part of my career. The knowledge is deep and the friendships are for life. I’m blessed to be a part of the team and friends with Legends of the industry.”

David Hamberlin

David Hamberlin is a wastewater industry veteran with over 20 years of experience in infrastructure assessment and asset management. He is a certified NASSCO trainer in PACP, LACP, and MACP, with a strong track record of educating professionals nationwide. David currently serves as a Business Development Manager and wastewater Subject Matter Expert at Hydromax USA, where he helps utilities implement innovative solutions for inspection, data collection, and system performance improvement.

Jim Harris

Mr. Harris has 50 years’ experience in sanitary sewer condition assessment and asset management. He has twice served as a utility or city engineer. He is a professional engineer recently retired from Jacobs Engineering. “At the end of my career, training younger men and women is a joy and the best way I know to give back to the industry that has been so good to me.”

David Hill

David Hill is an avid St. Louis Blues Hockey Club fan and enjoys spending time with his family. He is a devoted Poppy to two wonderful granddaughters and is frequently accused of spoiling them rotten. As a 20 year NASSCO trainer, he has the opportunity to meet individuals from all backgrounds and learn from them about what is important in their training class. This allows him to Tailor his presentation style to fit needs.

John Jones

Recognizing that municipalities and contractors need support, John Jones assisted with reviewing and making recommendations for over 3,631,000LF of videos in the last 5yrs. As a Trainer/Instructional Designer, he developed technical and software training as well as providing hands-on training to operators in the field. He has sat in the seat as Operation Manager. Program Manager and Construction Inspector in various States. “The only way forward, if we are going to improve the quality of the environment, is to get everybody involved” by Richard Rogers

Mike Kerr

Michael Kerr became a Trainer in February 2002 upon the initial release of PACP. He contributed to developing various versions of the PACP, LACP, and the original MACP. Michael collaborates with software companies to achieve NASSCO certification for their products. He enjoys meeting new people and learning from them. He believes that every day you should learn something new, otherwise you have missed many opportunities.

Mike Lukas

Mr. Lukas’ career has spanned a wide range of engineering services, including design and construction of sanitary and storm sewer collection systems. He has been involved in I/I studies, CSO studies, and facility studies. He also specializes in utility operation and maintenance evaluations, and collection system buried infrastructure management assessments.

“I believe [the Trainer Leadership Program] is a good idea for trainers to share their knowledge and hopefully maintain the quality of trainers that people need and expect.”

Danny Maas

Danny has 19 years of industry experience including CCTV inspections, cured-in-place-pipe (CIPP) design and installation, manhole rehabilitation, geopolymer rehabilitation, condition assessment, asset prioritization, flow monitoring, and I/I reduction, as well as a background in plumbing and general construction. “Sharing knowledge through NASSCO courses fuels my commitment to shaping the next generation of experts who drive strategic improvements in underground infrastructure.”

Sammy Maestas

Sammy Maestas has over three decades of experience in underground utility construction, serving as a licensed contractor, owner of Mesa Utility Connections LLC, and a Certified Pipeline Weld Inspector. He has proudly worked as a PACP Trainer for the past 12 years.

“It is a privilege to deliver PACP training for NASSCO, supporting the professional development of industry specialists across the United States and Canada.”

Chris Mitchell

Christopher began his career in sewer condition assessment in 1990 in the UK, in contractor and consultant roles. Now based in Canada, he is a NASSCO-certified PACP, LACP, and MACP Master Trainer, contributing to manual development and serving on NASSCO’s Board of Directors and technical committees.

 

“Training the next generation of PACP, LACP, and MACP professionals is more than a responsibility—it’s a passion. It’s how we ensure quality, consistency, and innovation in the way we manage and rehabilitate our underground infrastructure.”

Jason Roy

Jason Roy is a trenchless wastewater industry professional with over 20 years of experience. He began in 2002 with field-level cleaning and CCTV inspection roles and progressed into project management, QA/QC, and safety leadership across western Canada. As a NASSCO-certified PACP user since 2004, Jason later earned his LACP and MACP certifications, and has been a NASSCO Master Trainer since 2006 delivering standardized inspection training throughout the region. Experience includes municipal inspection and rehabilitation programs, trenchless repair and lining, laser profiling, and long-term inflow and infiltration (I&I) initiatives, with industry service on the PACP Version 7 Task Force, NASSCO’s Board of Directors, and multiple technical committees, focused on advancing consistent, defensible inspection data to support infrastructure decision-making and public trust. 

“Throughout my career, I’ve seen how NASSCO’s leadership, professionalism and collaborative approach have improved data quality and infrastructure outcomes. I’m committed to continuing my involvement as this industry-leading organization continues to evolve to meet the changing needs of the wastewater sector.”

Mark Schneider

Mark Schneider began his career in structural grouting –  sealing everything from subway tunnels to the steam tunnels in DC. After moving to Florida, he was hired by a company that wasn’t looking to hire, but appreciated his grouting experience and knew they could teach him how to run camera equipment.  After doing both jet truck and grout truck operations, he moved on to working on the development of lateral packers while grouting liners in South Florida.  He has hands on experience with liner installation and lateral reinstatement. From there, he started training equipment operation for a major US manufacturer, from CCTV truck operations to laser, sonar and multi sensor inspections for over 25 years all over the world.   He now primarily trains NASSCO PACP and grouting as needed.

John Schroeder

I am extremely fortunate to have been entrenched in this amazing sewer industry for over 30 years. I love the evolution of this NASSCO PACP program and how it has transformed the efficiency, accuracy and overall benefits of having a pipeline assessment standard. Most of all, I love passing along my knowledge of sewer assessment and rehabilitation to professionals so they can assess, maintain and improve their pipeline assets.

Nick Spano

With a BS and MBA from LSU, Nick has managed large scale sewer projects across cities like Nassau County, Hattiesburg, Honolulu and Nashville, using tools like CCTV, smoke testing, SL-RAT and Sonar. Nick has been NASSCO PACP trainer for since 2016 and has trained hundreds of CCTV technicians, engineers and data analysts to transform visual observations into quantifiable Data.

Greg Stanley

Greg Stanley is a professional engineer in the state of Michigan and has been a certified PLM trainer for the past 20 years. He currently is the Construction Group Manager for Wade Trim in Detroit, MI. He brings the aspect and experience  of large open cut sewer and tunnel construction to his training protocol.

Greg loves the program and emphasizes that “the color-coded charts are the building block to a great program!”

Tanya Stephens

Tanya Stephens is President of Infrastructure Assessment Academy and Condition Assessment Program Manager at the Town of Newmarket, Ontario. She has been a NASSCO-Certified Trainer since 2012, was awarded NASSCO’s Exceptional Trainer achievement in 2021 and NASSCO Trainer of the Year in 2022. Tanya is the Chair of NASSCO’s Infrastructure Assessment Committee, a contributor to PACP Version 8, QC Guidelines, and Asset Management Courses. “Train with enthusiasm. If you’re having fun and are passionate about the content, so will your students.”

Eric Sullivan

Eric Sullivan joined the trenchless technology and sewer condition assessment space in 2007, and became a NASSCO-certified PACP, LACP, and MACP Trainer in 2012. A former CIPP Rehab Operations Manager, current Direct of Strategic Development at SewerAI, and a seasoned industry liaison, he brings deep field and technical expertise. He earned his BA from Gonzaga University. “I absolutely love teaching NASSCO PACP, LACP, and MACP; it’s the foundation for raising the bar across our industry.”

Lindsey Sylvester

Lindsey Sylvester is a Technical Leader at Weston & Sampson in Manchester, NH and a professional engineer. She has been a NASSCO-certified PACP trainer since 2018, trains students throughout New England and the East Coast, and uses PACP in her daily work as a consulting engineer.

“I care for collection systems by delivering interactive, memorable training that equips industry colleagues with the skills to succeed.”

Ron Thomann

Ron Thomann, a Senior Project Manager at TREKK Design Group, is the Kansas City market lead for CCTV/Cleaning and has over 39 years of experience in the water/wastewater industry. He manages cleaning and CCTV services across the Midwest, specializing in identifying and removing I/I from utilities, and overseeing sewage system expansions, repairs, evaluations and recognized nationally as expert in Private I/I. Ron is a NASSCO-certified trainer for PACP, LACP, and MACP.

“With almost 40 years in the wastewater industry, I’ve served in various roles and find great reward in sharing my knowledge and mentoring others through my NASSCO training opportunities.”

Jeff Tinlin

Jeff Tinlin has been involved in the Wastewater industry since 1991, starting with Pearpoint, Inc.  He now has over 35 years of experience in CCTV equipment, cutter robotics, software, lateral inspection systems and CIPP lining technologies. In addition, Jeff was an original member of the committee responsible for developing PACP in  2002. 

“Being involved in the development of the PACP program from the beginning has been one of my greatest achievements during my time in the industry.   I love teaching and bringing a new perspective on the importance of the critical need for proper assessment of our underground infrastructure to the people in my classes, whether they are new to the industry, or have years of experience.  I always learn something new in every class, and I stress the importance of that continued learning to my students.”

Jerry Weimer

Jerry worked for City of Cincinnati, Metropolitan Sewer District (MSDGC), for 30 years in Condition Assessment and Cleaning. Member of WEF NASTT, BAM-I, and NASSCO. Train PACP, LACP, MACP, Certified in ITCP. Technical Advisor for NASSCO. Have a Class 2 State of Ohio Wastewater Collection License.

John Williamson

John is a visionary when it comes to cured in place pipe. As the founder of Novapipe, he solved inconsistent material performance issues, using ideas and concepts learned in the field. John has over 45 years of experience, as a contractor installing products then transitioning to CIPP liner manufacturing where he was able to improve liner performance earning a patent as the original inventor of the scrim reinforced liner. “Training provides the foundation upon which individuals build their expertise and confidence. It is an ongoing process that requires dedication, effort and a willingness to learn.”
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Inaugural Leadership Training

NASSCO’s inaugural training program took place at the 2025 Annual Conference. A room full of passionate educators came together for four hours to work on important topics like NASSCO core values, role-playing through presentation materials, understanding automatic defect recognition and the power of multi-sensor tools for inspections, and best practices for live monitoring of student exams.

December Training Fun: 3 Truths and a Lie!

Trainers enjoyed getting to know each other much better at our December Training.  Ron Thomann placed first, Lindsey Sylvester second and Charles Prather third in discerning the truths and the lie…

Twenty Year Trainers

Thank you to all that participated!

  • David Hill
  • John Schroeder, PE
  • John Williamson
  • Luis Leon, PE
  • Bryan Ballard
  • Michael Lukas
  • David Hamberlin
  • Eric Sullivan
  • Paul Booth
  • Norm Rollo
  • Chris Mitchell
  • Mike Kerr
  • Jim Harris, PE
  • Tanya Stephens
  • John Jones
  • Brandon Conley
  • Danny Maas, PE
  • Jerry Weimer
  • Nick Spano
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Congratulations to our trainers who have been training for 20+ years: Mike Kerr, Norm Rollo, Chris Garrett, Rod Thornhill, Thayne Loendorf, Michael Lukas, John Schroeder, PE, Tony Bischoff, Greg Stanley, Paul Booth, Luis Leon, PE, Jim Harris, PE, David Hill, John Jones, and Jerry Weimer. Each of these trainers is presented with a NASSCO 20-year service pin. Thank you all!

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Trainer Leadership Program – Upcoming Events:

2026 Annual Conference (50th) – March 2-5

El Conquistador Resort, Puerto Rico; Trainer Leadership will be Monday, March 2nd, 2-5pm (after golf outing)